1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,947 This series presents information based in part on theory and conjecture. 2 00:00:10,947 --> 00:00:20,955 The producer's purpose is to suggest some possible explanations, but not necessarily the only ones to the mysteries we will examine. 3 00:00:20,955 --> 00:00:27,960 How do we explain the feeling when we know we've been somewhere before? 4 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:35,966 Is this feeling coincidence, or is it possible we've lived past lives? 5 00:00:35,966 --> 00:00:43,972 A woman in Scotland believes that she has lived before as a young king who died 450 years ago. 6 00:00:43,972 --> 00:00:52,979 Two sisters killed in a car accident are believed by their father to have been reincarnated as twins in the same family. 7 00:00:52,979 --> 00:00:57,982 And what is the action? 8 00:00:57,982 --> 00:01:01,985 I'm walking down a path in the woods. 9 00:01:01,985 --> 00:01:06,989 A woman undergoes regression therapy to learn about her previous life. 10 00:01:06,989 --> 00:01:14,995 As I'm walking, I start to feel that somebody's watching me. 11 00:01:14,995 --> 00:01:18,998 Is it possible to discover if we have lived past lives? 12 00:01:23,001 --> 00:01:28,005 The End 13 00:01:41,015 --> 00:01:46,018 One of the greatest generals in the history of warfare was George S. Patton, 14 00:01:46,018 --> 00:01:52,023 a brilliant commander with an uncanny sense of cavalry tactics. 15 00:01:52,023 --> 00:02:00,029 He was a philosopher and poet, and had a fundamental belief in reincarnation. 16 00:02:00,029 --> 00:02:08,035 Once, as he drove through the French countryside, Patton heard the sounds of a distant battle. 17 00:02:08,035 --> 00:02:18,042 He was certain he had fought here before as the commander of a Roman legion, or perhaps as a Napoleonic general. 18 00:02:18,042 --> 00:02:23,046 General Patton's belief in reincarnation, in his timeless military experience, 19 00:02:23,046 --> 00:02:29,051 gave him the confidence that his decisions were right above all others. 20 00:02:29,051 --> 00:02:36,056 For anyone who has had that uncomfortable tingling, that memory of an event they could not possibly have witnessed, 21 00:02:36,056 --> 00:02:45,063 there may be a way to unlock the past. It's a technique called regression therapy. 22 00:02:45,063 --> 00:02:53,069 Loy and Robert Young teach reincarnation at the experimental college at California State University at Northridge. 23 00:02:53,069 --> 00:02:58,072 The Youngs say past lives is not a new concept. 24 00:02:58,072 --> 00:03:06,078 Reincarnation, and the belief in reincarnation, is a lot older than the belief in the one lifetime idea. 25 00:03:06,078 --> 00:03:12,083 In fact, up until the Middle Ages, a majority of people in Europe believed in some form of reincarnation, or rebirth. 26 00:03:12,083 --> 00:03:17,087 In more recent times, we've gone to this one lifetime theory. 27 00:03:17,087 --> 00:03:21,090 In fact, nobody has ever proved that we've only had one lifetime. 28 00:03:21,090 --> 00:03:26,093 What I'd like to go over briefly is just the description of reincarnation in karma. 29 00:03:26,093 --> 00:03:31,097 In seminars, the Youngs discuss the principles of life and rebirth. 30 00:03:31,097 --> 00:03:41,105 Reincarnation just simply means that a person keeps coming back, and coming back, and coming back until they reach a stage of perfection. 31 00:03:41,105 --> 00:03:49,110 Classes are told that problems we experience in our present lives, such as emotional traumas, can be traced to a previous existence. 32 00:03:49,110 --> 00:03:57,116 The Youngs feel that if we discover our past lives, we can understand and thus solve our current problems. 33 00:03:57,116 --> 00:04:02,120 When you work with regression therapy, you're really going back for the cause. 34 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:11,127 If you just stay in this lifetime, all you've got to do is to blame your parents for what went wrong with you, or maybe your early childhood training, or something like that. 35 00:04:11,127 --> 00:04:18,132 And as soon as you can go out of this life, you're not limited to time, then you can go after the real cause of something. 36 00:04:18,132 --> 00:04:23,136 And when you can find the real cause of something, that's it. You're finished. 37 00:04:23,136 --> 00:04:30,141 Few psychologists agree with the Youngs, who are almost alone in practicing regression therapy. 38 00:04:31,142 --> 00:04:32,143 Hello. 39 00:04:32,143 --> 00:04:33,143 Oh, hi. 40 00:04:33,143 --> 00:04:34,144 Hi, I'm Boa. 41 00:04:34,144 --> 00:04:35,145 Hello, how are you? 42 00:04:35,145 --> 00:04:36,146 That's my husband. 43 00:04:36,146 --> 00:04:47,154 Lucia Capicheoni is a practicing psychologist and author, who for many years tried unsuccessfully to understand why she felt fear in her relationships with men. 44 00:04:47,154 --> 00:04:52,158 She came to the Youngs hoping she could benefit from regression therapy. 45 00:04:52,158 --> 00:04:53,158 Is that comfortable? 46 00:04:53,158 --> 00:04:54,159 Fine. 47 00:04:54,159 --> 00:04:55,160 Good. 48 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,161 Good. 49 00:04:56,161 --> 00:05:01,164 What I'd like to do first, really identify this problem that you're having with men. 50 00:05:01,164 --> 00:05:03,166 Could you tell me exactly what it is? 51 00:05:03,166 --> 00:05:13,173 Well, I've been through a series of relationships with men in which either I'm not getting what I want out of the relationship where the man isn't. 52 00:05:13,173 --> 00:05:15,175 It's very unsatisfying. 53 00:05:15,175 --> 00:05:16,176 Okay. 54 00:05:16,176 --> 00:05:22,180 So like sadness or fears, what could you identify a little bit more closely? 55 00:05:22,180 --> 00:05:26,183 Well, at this point, I feel a lot of fear about it. 56 00:05:26,183 --> 00:05:34,189 Now, have you ever had like any reoccurring dream, anything connected with men, something that's happened over and over and over? 57 00:05:34,189 --> 00:05:40,194 Lucia has recently experienced nightmares, which could be symbolic of events from a past life. 58 00:05:40,194 --> 00:05:42,195 Could you tell me briefly about it? 59 00:05:42,195 --> 00:05:53,203 Well, in the dream, I'm asleep in bed and I sense the presence of a stranger, a man outside who's trying to break into the house to harm me. 60 00:05:53,203 --> 00:05:57,206 Just close your eyes and relax your body. 61 00:05:57,206 --> 00:06:02,210 I don't want to give you the commands because I don't want you to go into a hypnotic trance in any way. 62 00:06:02,210 --> 00:06:10,216 The next phase begins with a series of sensory awareness exercises to completely relax Lucia's mind and body. 63 00:06:10,216 --> 00:06:15,220 These therapy sessions last for several hours. 64 00:06:15,220 --> 00:06:23,226 Now, if it is not in this life then, if that's pretty sure, nothing like that has ever happened, we need to focus out of this life now. 65 00:06:23,226 --> 00:06:25,227 Focus out of this life. 66 00:06:25,227 --> 00:06:30,231 Lucia says that the incident in her nightmare has never actually occurred in this lifetime. 67 00:06:30,231 --> 00:06:36,236 Therefore, Loy concludes that the cause of Lucia's fears could be hidden in a past life. 68 00:06:36,236 --> 00:06:38,237 Really use your intuition. 69 00:06:38,237 --> 00:06:41,239 This is the key moment in regression therapy. 70 00:06:41,239 --> 00:06:44,242 And there, right there. 71 00:06:44,242 --> 00:06:45,242 Okay. 72 00:06:45,242 --> 00:06:49,245 Loy must now guide Lucia back to a previous existence. 73 00:06:49,245 --> 00:06:58,252 Well, I'm in a woods in daytime, it's like early afternoon. 74 00:06:59,253 --> 00:07:04,257 I'm a young girl. 75 00:07:04,257 --> 00:07:09,260 I'm wearing a long white gown of some kind. 76 00:07:09,260 --> 00:07:15,265 It feels like a Greek gown, yeah. 77 00:07:15,265 --> 00:07:26,273 I'm walking down a pathway and I feel the leaves under my feet and I can hear them crunching. 78 00:07:26,273 --> 00:07:31,277 Alright, let's move to the crisis part and let's find out what happened. 79 00:07:31,277 --> 00:07:37,281 Well, as I'm walking down this path, I'm alone. 80 00:07:37,281 --> 00:07:49,290 And I sense the presence of somebody behind me somewhere in the trees. 81 00:07:49,290 --> 00:07:54,294 There's somebody there. 82 00:07:54,294 --> 00:07:59,298 It feels like there's somebody watching me. 83 00:07:59,298 --> 00:08:01,299 And I'm really scared. 84 00:08:01,299 --> 00:08:04,301 I don't know what to do because I'm alone. 85 00:08:04,301 --> 00:08:13,308 And I don't know whether to scream or run. 86 00:08:13,308 --> 00:08:15,310 Stay with it. 87 00:08:15,310 --> 00:08:20,313 Somebody! 88 00:08:20,313 --> 00:08:23,316 Somebody's coming for me. 89 00:08:23,316 --> 00:08:30,321 Somebody has it at hands around my throat and I can't move. 90 00:08:30,321 --> 00:08:32,322 I'm so scared. 91 00:08:32,322 --> 00:08:35,325 Alright, go on through it. 92 00:08:35,325 --> 00:08:42,330 I can't see who it is because there's a black thing over my head. 93 00:08:42,330 --> 00:08:45,332 And I'm being pushed down to the ground. 94 00:08:45,332 --> 00:08:50,336 I can't see anything. 95 00:08:50,336 --> 00:08:54,339 I can't move. 96 00:08:54,339 --> 00:08:58,342 It was a man. 97 00:08:58,342 --> 00:09:02,345 That man killed me. 98 00:09:02,345 --> 00:09:05,347 Release that life now. 99 00:09:05,347 --> 00:09:07,349 Release and let the lifetime go. 100 00:09:07,349 --> 00:09:17,356 And you can slowly open your eyes. 101 00:09:17,356 --> 00:09:18,357 There we go. 102 00:09:18,357 --> 00:09:19,358 How do you feel now? 103 00:09:19,358 --> 00:09:24,361 I feel better. 104 00:09:24,361 --> 00:09:28,364 I feel like I wouldn't unblock without going out of this life. 105 00:09:28,364 --> 00:09:33,368 I've never experienced anything like that in my life. 106 00:09:33,368 --> 00:09:39,373 A few weeks later, Lucia met a man and is now involved in a satisfying relationship. 107 00:09:39,373 --> 00:09:44,376 So from Lucia's point of view, regression therapy seems to be working. 108 00:09:44,376 --> 00:09:48,379 However, there are often conflicting views about reincarnation. 109 00:09:48,379 --> 00:09:52,382 In England, two daughters do not agree with their father's belief 110 00:09:52,382 --> 00:09:57,386 that they are the reincarnation of their two sisters who have been killed. 111 00:09:57,386 --> 00:10:05,392 Yet there are compelling reasons to support their father's opinion. 112 00:10:05,392 --> 00:10:08,394 Scarborough, England. 113 00:10:08,394 --> 00:10:12,397 May 5, 1957. 114 00:10:12,397 --> 00:10:17,401 Joanna Pollock aged 11 and Jacqueline Pollock aged 6 were walking to church 115 00:10:17,401 --> 00:10:28,409 when they were struck and killed by a speeding motorist. 116 00:10:28,409 --> 00:10:33,413 John Pollock, the father of the two girls, was devastated by the tragedy. 117 00:10:33,413 --> 00:10:39,418 Yet out of his profound grief and later events, he began to accept a bizarre theory. 118 00:10:39,418 --> 00:10:45,422 I have no belief at all that my daughters are here other than their mortal remains. 119 00:10:45,422 --> 00:10:48,424 My two daughters were incarnated. 120 00:10:48,424 --> 00:10:54,429 John Pollock was convinced that in fact he never lost his two daughters. 121 00:10:54,429 --> 00:11:01,434 Falling year, my wife became pregnant. 122 00:11:01,434 --> 00:11:06,438 In the August of that year, she went to a prenatal clinic 123 00:11:06,438 --> 00:11:10,441 and she was examined by the gynecologist, our own family doctor, 124 00:11:10,441 --> 00:11:15,444 and the midwife who was later present at the birth. 125 00:11:15,444 --> 00:11:19,447 She had asked if everything was all right. She was told yes. 126 00:11:19,447 --> 00:11:22,450 There was only one heartbeat, one set of limbs. 127 00:11:22,450 --> 00:11:25,452 On the 4th of October, a little girl was born. 128 00:11:25,452 --> 00:11:30,456 Ten minutes later, to everyone's amazement, the second girl was born. 129 00:11:30,456 --> 00:11:35,459 I was amazed to see that the younger girl had a scar 130 00:11:35,459 --> 00:11:39,462 which went right across the forehead and into the right eye. 131 00:11:39,462 --> 00:11:43,465 The younger daughter who was killed had the identical scar. 132 00:11:43,465 --> 00:11:49,470 As the twins grew older, Mr. Pollock reports that unusual incidents strengthened his belief 133 00:11:49,470 --> 00:11:54,474 that the twins were the reincarnation of his first two daughters. 134 00:11:54,474 --> 00:12:00,478 The twins immediately recognized old items of clothing that had belonged to their two sisters. 135 00:12:00,478 --> 00:12:05,482 One recreated incident underlines his theory. 136 00:12:05,482 --> 00:12:13,488 I found two dolls that had belonged to the two girls that had been killed, my younger daughters. 137 00:12:13,488 --> 00:12:16,490 The elder of the twins picked up a doll and said, 138 00:12:16,490 --> 00:12:21,494 that is my Susan. I haven't seen her for a very long time. 139 00:12:24,496 --> 00:12:29,500 The younger of the twins went and picked up the other doll and said, that's my Mary. 140 00:12:29,500 --> 00:12:32,502 I haven't seen her for a very long time. 141 00:12:32,502 --> 00:12:36,505 These twins had never seen these dolls in their life. 142 00:12:36,505 --> 00:12:40,508 They belonged to their two sisters who had been killed. 143 00:12:40,508 --> 00:12:46,513 My wife and I brought the twins to Hexham to an area well known to the two girls who had died. 144 00:12:46,513 --> 00:12:54,519 We brought them in proximity of the church in school, coming along here where there's a four foot high wall. 145 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:57,521 They were below the height of this wall, they couldn't see what was behind. 146 00:12:57,521 --> 00:13:02,525 As we approached they turned around and said, there is the school around here where we used to go 147 00:13:02,525 --> 00:13:05,527 and there is the playground behind it. 148 00:13:05,527 --> 00:13:12,532 They could not possibly see this from where they were and they cannot see the playground in any shape or form from here 149 00:13:12,532 --> 00:13:15,534 because it lies behind the schools. 150 00:13:15,534 --> 00:13:24,541 We proceeded on and as we approached the abbey gates, one of them turned to the other and said, 151 00:13:24,541 --> 00:13:29,545 the playground's over here with the swings where Mummy used to take us and they turned and said, 152 00:13:29,545 --> 00:13:31,546 Mummy are you going to take us over there now? 153 00:13:31,546 --> 00:13:35,549 You can't see the playground because it lies below that incline. 154 00:13:35,549 --> 00:13:37,551 It's impossible to see it from the road. 155 00:13:40,553 --> 00:13:43,555 Today the twins work in the family bookstore. 156 00:13:43,555 --> 00:13:48,559 It has been more than 21 years since their two sisters were killed. 157 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,562 Do they agree with their father's belief in reincarnation? 158 00:13:52,562 --> 00:13:55,564 No, not at all, no. Nothing, no different. 159 00:13:55,564 --> 00:13:57,566 Sometimes I feel like I'm somebody else, not myself. 160 00:13:57,566 --> 00:13:59,567 I don't think my sister's either really. 161 00:14:00,568 --> 00:14:05,572 I mean I've got no doubt that we haven't been reincarnated to come back as our sisters. 162 00:14:05,572 --> 00:14:12,577 From a series of unusual events however, John Pollock has fashioned his own unshakable theory of reincarnation. 163 00:14:12,577 --> 00:14:17,581 My two daughters who had been killed had been reincarnated, they'd been given back. 164 00:14:17,581 --> 00:14:19,582 They'd been reborn to us. 165 00:14:19,582 --> 00:14:26,588 Outstanding evidence to me which I looked for, I wanted perhaps, I don't know, 166 00:14:26,588 --> 00:14:31,591 but it was given to me and I accepted it as such, as proof. 167 00:14:32,592 --> 00:14:38,597 For many of us, the memory of a past life exists only as fragmented images appearing in our dreams. 168 00:14:38,597 --> 00:14:44,601 Yet sometimes these images are so vivid in our minds that we feel compelled to investigate. 169 00:14:44,601 --> 00:14:49,605 Can we possibly verify the existence of a previous life? 170 00:14:50,605 --> 00:14:59,612 Kouris Abbey in Scotland, a favorite retreat for His Majesty King James IV of Scotland during his reign in the 16th century. 171 00:15:01,614 --> 00:15:11,621 Oh yes, I know this place. I'm sure this rings a bell and I'm sure I think of that gate. 172 00:15:11,621 --> 00:15:16,625 A.J. Stewart believes she is the reincarnation of James IV. 173 00:15:16,625 --> 00:15:20,628 There's the little swipe and passage. 174 00:15:20,628 --> 00:15:26,632 In search of cameras were present when she arrived for her first visit to Kouris. 175 00:15:26,632 --> 00:15:30,635 And if you listen very hard you can still hear them singing. 176 00:15:34,638 --> 00:15:36,640 And it's only yesterday. 177 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,643 Well, it's... to me it's only yesterday. 178 00:15:42,644 --> 00:15:48,649 James IV was born in 1488 and was crowned King at the age of 15. 179 00:15:48,649 --> 00:15:56,655 His prosperous reign ended tragically when he was slain on the battlefield of Plotton in 1513. 180 00:16:06,662 --> 00:16:13,668 The trail of her memories led us into the town of Kouris itself. Had she been here before? 181 00:16:13,668 --> 00:16:21,674 And there's the market square. Horses look much better. 182 00:16:25,677 --> 00:16:31,681 But always it was like this of houses piled on top of each other. 183 00:16:37,686 --> 00:16:47,693 And always the roofs are like this. They're much later than my time, but... 184 00:16:47,693 --> 00:16:54,698 These observations, although interesting, do not provide us with any conclusive evidence of her past life. 185 00:16:54,698 --> 00:16:59,702 The next stop was Traquere House, 50 miles south of Kouris. 186 00:17:00,703 --> 00:17:05,707 A.J. Stewart said she had never visited here before. As she searched her mind, 187 00:17:05,707 --> 00:17:10,710 she became aware of disturbing recollections, having nothing to do with her own life. 188 00:17:11,711 --> 00:17:18,716 I had been dreading the journey down because I had an awful feeling it was going to look like I knew it did. 189 00:17:18,716 --> 00:17:22,719 And it does. The colouring on the walls is different. 190 00:17:22,719 --> 00:17:28,724 It was grey stone then, there was no harling, and I didn't approach that way. 191 00:17:28,724 --> 00:17:31,726 I came across the old road where I'm sitting now. 192 00:17:32,727 --> 00:17:36,730 How did A.J. Stewart come to believe that she was once a great king? 193 00:17:36,730 --> 00:17:47,738 Well, it's a gradual process. I'd call it a life's remembering and forgetting, and then the remembering again. 194 00:17:47,738 --> 00:17:56,745 And the very sudden confirmation of it was in 1967 when I'd been fighting very hard against these memories 195 00:17:56,745 --> 00:18:02,749 that had been thrusting through all the days of my life, and I'd been trying to suppress them. 196 00:18:04,751 --> 00:18:10,755 We brought A.J. into the castle through the current entrance added after the death of King James. 197 00:18:11,756 --> 00:18:18,761 She said she was immediately disoriented and sensed that perhaps something was out of place. 198 00:18:18,761 --> 00:18:25,767 Her first impressions were correct, as this was not the entrance used by James IV. 199 00:18:25,767 --> 00:18:30,770 The king would have entered through the secret passage used only by royalty. 200 00:18:31,771 --> 00:18:37,775 We first brought A.J. into the room where the king is said to have slept. 201 00:18:40,778 --> 00:18:47,783 They're right about this, you know. This was the king's bedchamber. History hasn't changed. 202 00:18:47,783 --> 00:18:52,787 It's like yesterday, and I could be lying down in that same bed. 203 00:18:52,787 --> 00:18:56,790 And the portraits, no, the portraits are after my time. 204 00:18:57,790 --> 00:19:03,795 These aren't my people, but the room is the height, the height of the walls. That's right. 205 00:19:03,795 --> 00:19:08,799 And there's an oratory somewhere, is there not? There ought to be an oratory. 206 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:13,802 The king used to address his subjects from the balcony off the bedchamber. 207 00:19:13,802 --> 00:19:17,805 This is the window to the oratory, surely. It must be. 208 00:19:17,805 --> 00:19:22,809 There's a window that's open to the public. 209 00:19:22,809 --> 00:19:28,814 There's a window that's beyond, because always I must have an oratory. 210 00:19:28,814 --> 00:19:35,819 Like a departed spirit returning home, she describes the room as she says it had been in the king's time. 211 00:19:35,819 --> 00:19:41,823 And I know that fireplace, and they had... there was a... great... 212 00:19:41,823 --> 00:19:45,826 But is this a past life memory, or simply imagination? 213 00:19:45,826 --> 00:19:51,831 Not merely metal. There was a stone thing built round, because we had to screen off the heat, 214 00:19:51,831 --> 00:19:57,835 because even in the basket you got this casting of the cinders and the things. 215 00:19:57,835 --> 00:20:05,841 But of course there were... there were kind of silken rugs that were put down for the king, and tapestries. 216 00:20:07,843 --> 00:20:11,846 I've been down this stair before. 217 00:20:11,846 --> 00:20:16,850 Could A.J. Stewart in a past life have actually descended these steps, 218 00:20:16,850 --> 00:20:24,856 which led down a passageway to these stairs, which now lie in ruin, closed to the public? 219 00:20:24,856 --> 00:20:30,860 Or are all of her claims merely a romantic notion of history? 220 00:20:30,860 --> 00:20:34,863 It's a place that hasn't changed since my time. 221 00:20:34,863 --> 00:20:38,866 The ground always feels like home on places that I have known. 222 00:20:38,866 --> 00:20:41,868 No matter what is built on them, the ground will feel the same. 223 00:20:41,868 --> 00:20:44,871 Just occasionally I meet a house, and I think to myself, 224 00:20:45,871 --> 00:20:54,878 this is not nearly what it was like. This is really home to me, and this is my home to me in the 16th century. 225 00:20:59,882 --> 00:21:10,890 Throughout much of the eastern world, there exists the belief that all human spirits continue beyond physical death as part of the endless cycle of life. 226 00:21:11,891 --> 00:21:15,894 This concept is foreign to most western minds. 227 00:21:15,894 --> 00:21:20,898 Like the Pollock twins, many of us do not accept such beliefs. 228 00:21:20,898 --> 00:21:30,905 But for others, such as Lucia Capicione and A.J. Stewart, the possibility of past lives is beyond question. 229 00:21:41,913 --> 00:21:49,919 Coming up next in search of continues with the journey into the realm of dreams and nightmares. 230 00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:57,925 Then a Navy man poses as a Soviet spy in Operation Lemonade, one of the FBI's untold stories. 231 00:21:57,925 --> 00:22:09,934 And later tonight, world records and death by water are just an instant apart as racers push the envelope of top speed at 9 Eastern 10 Pacific. 232 00:22:09,934 --> 00:22:13,937 Here on the History Channel, where the past comes alive.